Great Marketing Conversation:

So I was talking with our Director of Marketing, Brian Williams, this morning in our weekly meeting. He asked me a question that I know but hadn’t verbalized in a long time. It was one of those questions that you “just do” but maybe it’s been a while since you thought about why you do it.  In a nutshell, here was the question:

“Why do we market Dave the way we market Dave and what books have I read that make me the marketer that I am?”

We went on to have a great discussion. We first talked about non-traditional marketers that I really admire. Most of them are guys where marketing is simply an extension of who they are and they are very competitive.  . . Two names were Mark Cuban and Pat Croce.  Specifically Cuban. . .he’s a true american success story first of all. He identified the dream and in Dave’s terms, “Left the Cave, Killed something and brought it home”. To stay with the Dave analogy, he knows who his fans (listeners) are and he markets to them. The fans enjoy a Dallas Mavericks basketball game. Why? One b/c the team is great which is certainly a result of their owners passion and vision, but also I think the bigger reason is Cuban doesn’t walk the industry line. The industry line is boring. He didn’t become “one of them”. He knows himself. Knows what made him successful in other businesses and he carried it over to the NBA. He probably, vehemently defends against becoming one of the industry. The fans eat it up. It’s no fun to follow another vanilla talking head for the industry. People always follow passion and Cuban has it.

I’m telling you. . as we talked about this I realized that is EXACTLY what has made us win with The Dave Ramsey Show. Dave is a self made man who knows exactly who he is and what got him here. He has laser focus on what he knows he was created to do. As a company he has mentored us to passionately defend our message and the way we deliver that message. As for talk radio, none of our team members are “career radio guys”. We look at the industry a little different and I think that has made us very appealing to the listeners. We have narrowed this thing down to a simple message of HOPE and we go after that everyday with laser focus. We know exactly what we are aiming at.

Of course, it all goes down to pursuing the passion with blinders on. Not getting distracted from what you know in your gut you are called to do.

I’m getting excited as I’m typing this. I see a guy who is just running toward the goal screaming, “GET OUT OF MY WAY!!!!” Brick wall, doesn’t matter I’m going through it. . .Fined by the NBA? Tough, I’ll match your fine with a gift to charity. Dropped by a radio station for saying the wrong thing on the air? Your loss. . .we’re going to keep winning all over the country b/c we are convinced that what we are doing is right.

Take it to the hole over and over and over again. Never stop!

It’s always good to remember why you’re doing what you’re doing and then be forced to verbalize it. It was a good meeting.

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3 Comments on “Great Marketing Conversation:”

  1. Bob Borquez Says:

    That’s a great example of the boundaries that The Dave Ramsey Show is blowing out; and this is the kind of approach that opens up all kinds of creative possibilities. Passion, focus and vision are powerful elements, and they definitely overflow from the team at Ramsey’s. They should do a panel about this at the next Talk Radio Seminar and inspire somebody!


  2. I like what you wrote:

    “Cuban doesn’t walk the industry line. The industry line is boring. He didn’t become ‘one of them’… He probably, vehemently defends against becoming one of the industry. The fans eat it up. It’s no fun to follow another vanilla talking head for the industry.”

    It’s not just thinking different but being different that sets great people and companies apart. You might want to checkout Seth Godin’s book The Purple Cow. The whole book is about establishing yourself, product, and company as being remarkably different.

  3. pfarm Says:

    Some people just know how to win.

    Dave knows how to win. Hampton knows how to win. His team knows how to win. Marketing has an element of “knowing how to win.” Like passion, this specific trait can’t be taught.

    When you mix this ability to win of course with knowledge (books, edu), focus, and, most importantly, plagiarizing an idea from God, your marketing becomes a consistent element of your knack to win….in the case of The Dave Ramsey Show, it allows you to get on more radio stations, reach more people, and spread more HOPE.

    Remember too when stealing God’s ideas, it is not really plagiarism unless you don’t give credit to the source.

    Keep winning Bill.


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